Kiwi Polemicist

September 20, 2008

Compulsory training – Part 2

An update to my previous post.

Commenter democracymum raises a good point on Kiwiblog:

Ironically this policy also penalises those children who are fast learners.
My son will be 15 at the start of Year 13 and could, theoretically have finished a degree by the time he is 18.
No gap year, or work experience, or OE for him until the White Witch says so.
[Year 13 is 7th form in old money, when most kids are 16-17 years old. White Witch is an original idea of mine so I’m claiming copyright :)]

Here are my thoughts on this:

1) if this young man wants to go to university he can go there directly from school, but that will mean a student loan, parental assistance, or both. This increases the financial burden on him, his parents, and taxpayers.

2) if he wants to take the sensible approach and work to save for university before going to university he must wait until his 18th birthday: that means filling in time with various training schemes, which may or may not match his abilities and may or may not be what he wants to do. If the schemes do no match his abilities he is likely to be bored and frustrated.

This will also mean that the start of his postgraduate salary is delayed, making him poorer: he can never recover those lost years of earnings.

3) university students have a more mature approach if they have had work experience or OE (overseas travel experience) before going to university; more so from work experience. Compulsory training makes it much harder and much more expensive for him to gain that maturity before going to university (see #2).

4) democracymum points out that her son cannot go to work [without also doing training] or overseas until his 18th birthday. I believe that this is slavery, my definition of slavery being “Involuntary detention of those who have not committed crimes against person or property”*.

5) raising the school leaving age to 18 means that the state is treating teenagers as children until their 18th birthday: this is an infantilisation of teenagers, and I believe that the resulting immaturity will have an intergenerational effect on our country.

In other words, the State is treating teenagers as babies until their 18th birthday, which promotes immaturity in teenagers, and they will pass that immaturity (reduced skills for sensible living) onto their descendants.

Thanks Helen, your policy is going to damage our country for many generations to come.


*Consider also the Bill of Rights (not that Helen has any respect for the rule of law):

♦ s6: Interpretation consistent with Bill of Rights to be preferred

Wherever an enactment can be given a meaning that is consistent with the rights and freedoms contained in this Bill of Rights, that meaning shall be preferred to any other meaning.

♦ s18: Freedom of movement

(1) Everyone lawfully in New Zealand has the right to freedom of movement and residence in New Zealand.

(2) Every New Zealand citizen has the right to enter New Zealand.

(3) Everyone has the right to leave New Zealand.

(4) No one who is not a New Zealand citizen and who is lawfully in New Zealand shall be required to leave New Zealand except under a decision taken on grounds prescribed by law.

♦ s22: Liberty of the person

Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily arrested or detained.


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